So anyone who tries to find their Irish immigrant family and their family in Ireland knows that it can sometimes very difficult to do so. You have to know the county they came from in Ireland, then the parish, and even then there are so few records. And lets not get started on Irish naming practices. We know how many John, Joe, Michael, Phil, etc there are in the Buckley family.
Tonight I think I can say with more strength though, that we may have a further generation back. I dont want to say that with 100% certainty, but I want to say it is VERY possible.
So here we go:
John Brady was born in Ireland. This we know through all the census.
1860: Choconut, Susquehanna, PA
1870: Plains Twp, Luzerne, PA
1880: Liberty Twp, Susquehanna, PA
1900: Dickson City, Lackawanna, PA
Important information from census records:
- States he immigrated in 1845
- Married for 56 years in 1900- 1844 (this would make him 13 at the time of his marriage if he was born May 1831 as state in 1900. So I believe one of these two things to be incorrect.)
- Both of his parents were born in Ireland
His family is as follows:
Wife: Mary Mullen
Children:
- Mary
- Lawrence
- Bartholamew
- Patrick
- Margaret
- James
- John
Today I received an email from an ancestry user who had done their DNA test. This was their question: "Per ancestry DNA we are forth cousins. I think the match is between your John J Brady family and my John Clark family. In 1860 they lived one farm away from one another in Choconut PA."
I immediately took notice due to the Clark name, so I went and looked.
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1860 Census showing John Brady family (in green/yellow and John Clark in yellow one farm away) |
John Clark, above, was born circa 1805 in Ireland.
Back to John Brady (my 3rd great grandfather and John Clark's neighbor).
Notice he has a child named Barthalomew. When I went looking for Brady families in Susquehanna County in 1860 I found:
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1860 census showing Bartholomew Brady Family in Silver Lake |
As you can see there is a Bartholomew Brady in Silver Lake, Susquehanna County and it is not that far away from Choconut where the John Brady family was living. I feel like its a unique enough name that the two might be related, and John named his son after this man.
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It would roughly be a 3 hour walk, or 1 hour bike ride. Not sure about by horse. |
Now where do the Clarks come in to play? Well, Bartholomew Brady's wife's maiden name was Clark which was evidenced by their daughter Roseanna's death certificate.
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Maiden name of mother: Rose Clark - will have to research to see how informant Mrs. J H Shea is related. |
Roseanna Clark Brady was born roughly 1796 so she may well have been John Clark, John Brady's neighbor's, older sister.
It appears, at least by the 1850 and 1860 census, John immigrated much sooner than Bartholomew and Roseanna as he had a son born in Canada in 1833. Perhaps he wrote back to his remaining family in Ireland. It was during the 40's that the potato famine hit Ireland, and this may have been the push the Brady family needed to immigrate. Bartholomew does not appear on a census (That I could find) before 1850, and John (his possible son) states his immigration year as 1845.
I have been unable to find John Brady in the 1850 census though Bartholomew is living Silver Lake in 1850 and John Clark is living in Choconut already (there are quite a few Clark families living in Choconut actually)
Digging further into Bartholomew and Roseanna Clark Brady I found their tombstone on findagrave.com.
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St. Augustine Cemetery, Brackney, Susquehanna, Pennsylvania
Rosa Brady Died 3/15/1873. aged 77 years (inferred DOB 1796)
Bartholomew Brady Died 1/1?/1878. aged 83 years (inferred DOB 1795)
Findagrave |
What is so wonderful about this tombstone is the inscription "Natives of Parish of Clonbroney County of Longford, Ireland" - This is amazing, because it gave me a place to look. Also the person who contacted me has their John Clark being from County Longford in Ireland too!!
Also, notice that John Clark had a daughter named Roseanna.
There aren't many records online that I could find, I would definitely have to see about what is microfilmed or if I can reach out to someone within that parish in Ireland. In the meantime though I went looking for any transcribed documents and came across this site - The Genealogy of County Longford Ireland.
And look! A John Brady baptized July? 1828 to a Bartholomew Brady and ? Clarke.
In the 1900 census John states his birthdate is May 1830 or at least that is what the census taker wrote down. This may not be correct. I rarely believe what census state as birthdates. But as there is a discrepancy this is why I can't 100% state these are his parents - but based off all the other information and the DNA relation, I feel that they may very well be.
All the circumstantial evidence summed up:
- Bartholomew Brady and John Brady are living in the same county in 1860.
- John Brady has a son named Bartholomew
- John Brady is living one farm away from John Clark who was from County Longford, Ireland
- Bartholomew Brady's wife was Roseanna Clark - both of them were from County Longford, Ireland.
- John Clark had a daughter named Roseanna
- The DNA match
As a side note -
⇨ You will see some people on ancestry listing a Lawrence Brady and Mary Clark as the parents of John Brady, however they are doing so based off of this death certificate:
This however is NOT our John Brady. This John Brady was married to Mary McFarland and lived in East Union, Schulykill, PA. I can definitely understand where the confusion comesin as this family had the following children: Lawrence ,Mary, John, Margaret, Rose, and Bernard, and our John had: Mary, Lawrence, Bartholmaew, Patrick, Margaret, James, and John.
It is completely possible that this John Brady was related in some way, but it is NOT our John.
What we do know is that OUR John Brady most likely died between 1900 and 1910.
His wife, Mary Mullen Brady passed away in 1909 and she was a widow at that time. It is most likely that John Brady passed way before 1906 since its after this year the death certificates are online for. It also probably happened in Dickson City as this is where they were living in 1900 and where Mary died in 1909. She is buried in St Patricks in Olyphant, PA. I'm not sure where John is buried and I am unsure if I can get a copy of his death certificate (if there is one) without the exact date of his passing.